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Help my 1979 Honda CD185T Benly #ProjectBenly

Help my 1979 Honda CD185T Benly #ProjectBenly

August 10, 2015 By DanThornton 6 Comments

A break in updated on Rescogs generally means one of two things. The first is that I’ve had to focus more on my day job to pay the bills (If you want to help out, I’d love to hear from you). The other cause is the 1979 Honda CD185T Benly currently inhabiting the garage.

My 1979 Honda CD185T Benly
My 1979 Honda CD185T Benly

It doesn’t look too bad in that photo, does it? Until you notice the missing speedo, the rust and other slight issues. But the thing you can’t see is that it hasn’t run properly in about a decade.

If you’re currently wondering what on earth led to my ownership of a ’79 Benly, then allow me to explain. It was acquired in a swap deal for a guitar amp with notable motorcycle journalist and author Al Seeley. At the time it made perfect sense. He gained a nice Marshall, and I gained a little classic motorcycle which would be perfect for learning basic maintenance. Plus at the time I was employed as a motorcycle journo myself, which meant lots of borrowing the latest bikes – so I needed something of my own to build up some valuable No Claims Bonus should I ever leave.

One summer evening test ride for a couple of miles and the Benly won me over with some retro charm. Plus it was dirt cheap to insure and a bit different for the 3-4 mile daily commute.

Then it started misbehaving.

1979 Honda CD185T Benly Side Panel
A Twin convinced it should be a Single

It soon decided that it would rather run on one cylinder. If at all. And after a while of putting up with it, my esteemed father got fed up of my lack of mechanical skill and told me he’d fix it over the summer. That was about 9 years ago, and since then it’s sat in his garage after some initial exploration and failed fixes, plus some new exhausts (now rusted), a new battery (now flat), and the removal of the speedo (no idea).

But that’s going to change now. I’ve already started stripping it properly, and with your help, the mighty #ProjectBenly might result in an actual working motorcycle.

The first way you can help is by keeping me motivated through the long slog to fix it properly this time, from frame up. Rubbing away rust, crap and paint isn’t always fun, and I have yet to get to the engine itself (First task was to arrest some of the corrosion and to un-stick the brakes to move it more easily around the garage). Plus if you happen to know anything about engines, the 70’s Honda Benly, or fancy rebuilding an engine for eternal gratitude and plentiful blog posts about how wonderful you are, then it’s all going to keep me going.

The second way is to help me with an important decision. I have 3 current choices to decide from:

Straight restoration?

The first option I have is to complete a faithful restoration (Assuming it’s ever complete!). Take it apart, fix it, put it back together and ride it.

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A reasonable choice, but logically the price of a 1979 Honda CB185T Benly is about £600 secondhand. Which is far less than the cost of spares to put it back together. Plus there are certain stylistic decisions that I’ve never enjoyed. The speedo is a horrible square lump, the mirrors are huge, those fork leg reflectors look horrible, and it’s just a little bit too twee. I’m just not convinced I’ll be dedicated enough to spend every spare moment in the garage to rebuild something with the speed and frame of a 1950s bicycle.

 

Cafe Racer?

You’d think by now I’d have stopped listening to my father. But he does make the occasional wise decision when it comes to motorcycles. Plus, his obsessive cleaning tendency could work in my favour.

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His suggestion was to go for more of a cafe racer style. Drop bars, more streamlined, and more stylish. It’d mean losing the huge seat, which is one of the better preserved parts of the bike. But would give me something with a better look.

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But I have a problem with that plan. Is there anything cool about a mini cafe racer with all the power of an asthmatic weasel?

The Benly wasn’t particularly quick when new. And over the years it’ll have naturally lost power. The last time it was running properly, I could keep up with dual carriageway traffic. But only when I ignored the articulated lorries slip streaming me, and overtaking was a pipe dream.

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So if I’m going to Cafe Racer something, shouldn’t it at least have enough power to keep up with traffic? I’m going to look a bit of a tit hunched over uncomfortably as bicycles pedal past?

 

Scrambler/Brat?

Now we come to option 3. Which is to basically junk all the crap bits I can, keep the bits I quite like, and hopefully end up with a reasonably comfortable, reasonably classic, usable bike.

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I’m thinking possibly higher bars, a new mini speedo, and cutting down the front mudguard or junking it. I’m not sure about the best solution for the low slung twin pipes, but at least some matt black paint will be more rust-protection friendly than the wafer-thin chrome that’s left.

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I haven’t decided whether the chain guard should stay, but a different colour scheme could disguise it and make the bike look a bit less twee. I do still quite like the rear shocks, even if they offer no discernible performance. And no-one can claim that if I stick some knobbly tyres on it’ll hinder the performance…
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So this is where I need some opinions which don’t belong to me (Because I’m mechanically inept), or my father (because his own bikes take preference, and I’ll be his age before we reach an agreement). Do you reckon I should go straight resto, cafe racer, scrambler or something else?

And can you try and remind me to actually keep making progress, posting updates and actually get the sodding Benly back on the road to prove I’m not completely inept? Alternatively – anyone got a modern CG125 engine or similar kicking around and reckon it could fit?

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Comments

  1. John says

    August 10, 2015 at 12:37 PM

    Its not my bike but if it was I’d go for a street scrambler look, plus it’d keep it paractical, higher handle bars, keep the tank as is but swap mudguards for stainless, black paint that chain guard, (it’s practical but ugly in my eyes) Stick some trials tyres on it and just tidy up the rest. Could do with some CL style high level exhausts too

    Reply
    • DanThornton says

      August 10, 2015 at 12:41 PM

      Cheers John – and that sounds like my idea of the scrambler Benly. I’ve been window shopping higher bars and a small speedo unit. And don’t tell anyone, but I might have experimented with rubbing down the front mudguard, with an idea to cut it right down if I go that route – the thing is massive at the moment…

      Black or matt black paint for the chain guard would definitely help make it look a bit less twee. I suspect the high-level exhausts might have to wait while I finish the rest and save some cash. The question will be whether to use some exhaust wrap and really risk some criticism!

      Reply
  2. Sam Hirst says

    August 26, 2015 at 4:14 PM

    When they are running right these are great little bikes. I own exactly the same bike which I have partially restored and continue to do the odd bit. Parts are reasonably easy to get hold of with the exception of a few bits. In regards to the running on 1 cylinder issue I also experienced the same issue. What was the problem you may ask? Carb needed cleaning and mixture correctly setting. I also adjusted the points timing which made a difference. I recently completed a fantastic 70 mile ride without a hitch. Good luck with your project and if you decide to ditch the chain guard then let me have 1st dibs as I need one.

    Reply
    • DanThornton says

      August 26, 2015 at 7:15 PM

      Cheers for the tips Sam, and giving me some inspiration to keep going. I’ve found bits aren’t too hard to get in general, and if I do decide to ditch anything I’ll let you know straight away!
      Dan

      Reply
  3. Steve says

    August 14, 2019 at 7:44 PM

    I have a cd200 benly,I’m doing a cafe racer/brat bike.
    Check out my Instagram page of the build!
    @honda_brat_build

    Reply
    • DanThornton says

      August 14, 2019 at 9:44 PM

      Nice!
      Looks in a lot better condition than our ’79, especially after the stripping and sandblasting work. Hopefully you’ll let us feature it when it’s closer to being finished…

      Meanwhile our #ProjectBenly has stalled a bit – moving to a house without a garage means it’s 150+ miles away and without a van, it’ll probably be there a bit longer, sadly…

      Reply

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